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Thore Graepel's avatar

The idea of consciousness vs replication is intriguing. Maybe an interesting related phenomenon is living in the present moment (consciousness) vs concern with past (regret?) or future (worry?) - replicating ourselves along an imagined axis of time beyond the present moment? Is the present moment the biblical paradise, and Adam and Eve have been driven out of paradise into a world of worrying about past and future?

Another point: Given the rapid progress in AI, maybe the worst case scenario would be for our AI successors to spread across the Earth and Heavens, replacing us, but never seeing the light of consciousness. What a waste that would be - no consciousness, no value!

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Graham L's avatar

Yes... I'm probably 98% with you... but (a) I'm pretty sure there is "something it is like" to be a fish, and that therefore fish are conscious; but mostly (b) I'm not entirely convinced by this consciousness vs replicators and good vs evil thing. Firstly, it seems to me that it is consciousness that is the source of evil (as well as of good, of course) - "pure" replicators, like predators in nature, are just following their instinctive and genetic imperatives, they're not being "evil" any more than a hurricane which kills people is evil. Second, actually abandoning replication would mean "stop having children": it would be all very well having a final generation of enlightened beings, but if the purpose of the universe is to keep increasing its own knowledge of itself, and it can only do that through the experiences of conscious beings, then it would just have to give up on the Planet Earth as a way of helping it, and rely on the development of conscious intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Seems kind of a shame when we have come so far that we can even discuss that principle. Sounds like being two moves away from checkmate and sweeping the chess pieces off the board.

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